10/1/12

Whey Is Food


If you're involved in the crossfit community than you may be familiar with the "whole food movement". Basically stating that you eat only whole foods and be more natural. "If our ancestor's didn't eat this then I wont." If you don't care at all about crossfit that's cool too. However this doesn't have to keep you from the benefits of current supplements. I consider whey protein a food source, and you can too.

The first question you should have as opposition to this should be, "what about the high amount of processing that whey protein goes through?" Fair enough, let's talk about the processing it goes through. To make cheese you have to allow milk to curdle which is a natural process that separates the casein from the whey. The casein is the more solid portion and the whey is the liquid. You take the liquid whey and separate it from the lactate. Once the lactate is removed you then dry it out and get the powdered version [1].

If you consider milk or cheese food then maybe you should consider whey food.

The second counter you might have could be, "since its been isolated from the mixture we shouldn't be able to digest it as well." A study conducted on rats with commercial whey protein showed that they whey had high biological markers and improved glycemic homeostasis [2]. In other words they were able to digest the protein and function better.

If you think having proper glycemic homeostasis is good, then maybe you should consider whey food.

If you don't feel convinced yet, then your third counter should be, "were not meant to digest that much liquid protein at once."Another study that was conducted on adult males showed that the consumption of greater levels of whey protein was better. Protein synthesis was shown in greater levels with the men who consumed the greatest levels of whey.[3]

If you like having greater levels of protein synthesis, and muscle growth, then maybe you should consider whey food.

Maybe you agree, or maybe you don't either whey I feel they science points in the food direction. However, this isn't my whey or the highwhey. You can decide for yourself and then choose; just don't miss out on all the benefits of whey protein. WHEY

  1. Kevin Rail. How Is Whey Protein Made. retrieved Ehow.com [http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4913560_how-whey-protein-made.html]
  2. Haraguchi FKPedrosa MLPaula HSantos RCSilva ME. (2010) Evaluation of biological and biochemical quality of whey protein. retrieved (6):1505-9. Epub
  3. Pennings BGroen Bde Lange AGijsen APZorenc AHSenden JMvan Loon LJ. (2012) Amino acid absorption and subsequent muscle protein accretion following graded intakes of whey protein in elderly men. retrieved. 302(8):E992-9. doi: 10.1152/ajpendo.00517.2011. Epub

9 comments:

  1. What about, "The human body can't process more than 25 grams of protein at a time. All the extra just gets cycled out."

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  2. What a waste of money then...
    But seriously there's no literature supporting that. Let's say you get lost in the wilderness and you're starving and you kill a deer. sucks to be you if you cant process all the protein you'll be filling your mouth with.

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  3. Then it is OK for me to only eat whey as a protein source and a multivitamin and mineral tablet for my vitamins and then do away with eating anything else because according to your theory I will be better off than wasting time and energy on eating according to the science?

    Definition of FOOD
    1
    a : material consisting essentially of protein, carbohydrate, and fat used in the body of an organism to sustain growth, repair, and vital processes and to furnish energy; also : such food together with supplementary substances (as minerals, vitamins, and condiments)
    b : inorganic substances absorbed by plants in gaseous form or in water solution
    2
    : nutriment in solid form

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    1. Well if that is what you desire to do with you life then by all means go ahead. However I do feel obligated to counter your assumption really quick.
      http://www.endunamoomechristoo.com/2012/08/the-vitamin-youre-not-taking-but-should.html

      The above article actually shows that I am against shotgunning vitamins as research and practical theory are against it. Second point is that the above definition of food consists of a mandatory inclusion of carbs, proteins, and fats. many vegetables are almost absent in fats and proteins. Many meats are nearly absent of carbs. By saying whey protein does not constitute as food because it's primarily protein would then cancel out several other foods as well.

      In conclusion bold claims should have bold support.

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  4. WOW you are a very sensitive health guru to tell me that from my post you determined what I want to do with my life when nothing I said had to do with my life or what I ate. I was commenting on what you put forth, that whey protein was a food and I just extrapolated that according to your definition I could just eat whey protein and multivitamins and would have health because they are food. In my opinion all you did was prove the benefit of whey protein as a quality supplement, which I do agree with you but you are very myopic in your thought process concerning diets and food, it is much more multi-faceted than you present. Below you will find “bold” support to my case that whey and vitamins are supplements where as you only presented the benefits of whey protein, no support of it as a food except for your definition.

    Consuming macronutrients, (carbs, fats, proteins) in the absence of vitamins and minerals (empty calories) is hazardous to the health of any animal species. I am not talking about supplements here i.e. whey protein and multivitamins but food. What is real food? It can be describes by five adjectives: whole, alive, nontoxic, variable, and indigenous, a diet which can be describe by these adjectives, whether it is mostly vegetarian or meat is suitable for people. Unfortunately that is not the kind of food we eat or feed people in today’s marketplace.

    Example would be refined table sugar (sucrose) contains only empty carbohydrate calories, whereas sucrose contained in a beet by virtue of its connection and with respect to the “wholeness” of the food, its origin of design, attachment to micronutrients and the buffering effect of fiber, is quite acceptable to consume in the context of a healthy diet. In other words when we process, separate the part from the whole it, the part may become more toxic to the whole organism and because of that separation it can be described as: artifact, dead, toxic, monotonous, exotic and surplus (overly abundant). Most of these words are self-explanatory except for artifact. It means a food is fractionated. The better or more nutritious fractions are discarded or fed to livestock; such was the destiny of whey in year’s gone bye. In today’s world the protein, fat and carbs are isolated and then recombined into material that looks, smells, and tastes like food but is not.

    Food is made up of hundreds, in fact thousands of natural occurring chemicals. For best health results you must consider the quality of your food, its impact on your internal hormonal chemistry, its macronutrient to micronutrient ratio and whether or not by genetic design, you and the food are compatible. Although we are omnivorous and highly adaptable, we are not garbage cans designed to extract nutrients from anything considered eatable without discretion. What you eat, why you eat, when you eat, how you eat and where you eat are key determinants of healthy nutrition.

    Supplements, by definition, are designed to fill nutritional gaps in a bad diet.

    Yes I admit that I use a whey protein as a supplement and I take some vitamins but they are a supplement by any definition, not a food, and they most certainly have their place in a healthy diet but the discussion is whether whey it is food or not and I surely have provide bold support!!

    Looking forward to your next bold claim!!

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  5. WOW you are a very intuitive health guru to tell me that from my post you determined what I want to do with my life when nothing I said had to do with my life or what I ate.

    I was commenting on what you put forth, that whey protein was a food and I just extrapolated that according to your food definition I could just eat whey protein and multivitamins and would have health because they are food. In my opinion all you did was prove the benefit of whey protein as a quality supplement, which I do agree with you but you are very myopic in your thought process concerning diets and food, it is much more multi-faceted than you present.

    Below you will find “bold” support to my case that whey and vitamins are supplements where as you only presented the benefits of whey protein, no support of it as a food except for your definition and totally ignored the Webster dictionary definition.

    Consuming macronutrients, (carbs, fats, proteins) in the absence of vitamins and minerals (empty calories) is hazardous to the health of any animal species. I am not talking about supplements here i.e. whey protein and multivitamins but food. What is real food? It can be describes by five adjectives: whole, alive, nontoxic, variable, and indigenous, a diet which can be describe by these adjectives, whether it is mostly vegetarian or meat is suitable for people. Unfortunately that is not the kind of food we eat or feed people in today’s marketplace.

    Example would be refined table sugar (sucrose) contains only empty carbohydrate calories, whereas sucrose contained in a beet by virtue of its connection and with respect to the “wholeness” of the food, its origin of design, attachment to micronutrients and the buffering effect of fiber, is quite acceptable to consume in the context of a healthy diet. In other words when we process, separate the part from the whole it, (whey from milk) the part may become more toxic to the whole organism and because of that separation it can be described as: artifact, dead, toxic, monotonous, exotic and surplus (overly abundant). Most of these words are self-explanatory except for artifact. It means a food is fractionated. The better or more nutritious fractions are discarded or fed to livestock; such was the destiny of whey in year’s gone bye. In today’s world the protein, fat and carbs are isolated and then recombined into material that looks, smells, and tastes like food but is not.
    Food is made up of hundreds, in fact thousands of natural occurring chemicals. For best health results you must consider the quality of your food, its impact on your internal hormonal chemistry, its macronutrient to micronutrient ratio and whether or not by genetic design, you and the food are compatible. Although we are omnivorous and highly adaptable, we are not garbage cans designed to extract nutrients from anything considered eatable without discretion. What you eat, why you eat, when you eat, how you eat and where you eat are key determinants of healthy nutrition.
    Supplements, by definition, are designed to fill nutritional gaps in a bad diet.

    Yes I admit that I use a whey protein as a supplement and I take some vitamins but both are a supplement by any definition, not a food, and they most certainly have their place in a healthy diet but the discussion is whether whey it is food or not and I say it is not food but a supplement, although a good one.

    Looking forward to your next bold claim!!

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    1. It seems that you have not taken away from the article that which was intended. The article was a point to distinct whey from other supplements. Whey is a calorie containing food source. The calories are not empty but, if from a good source, full chained proteins consisting of all 3 aminos. If a protein contains all three aminos then we have the all or nothing principle and can process it. Hormones are sensitive to other hormonal stimuli. The thing they are least dependent on is simply protein. It starts from a food source and ends as a FOOD SOURCE. Seeing that you take whey protein makes me wonder why you would disregard it as a food. If you don't take it for the protein content or the calories then why take it. Supplements are gaps for nutrition. Nobody said that you should live on whey protein. Just like I never said people should live on milk or cheese.

      I've seen the research articles bashing on whey and claiming it "toxic" However the ratio of research claiming whey to be toxic compared to that showing its positive health benefits is small. I like your theory, I don't agree with it though. An amino acid is an amino acid coming from whey or casein. It is the clumping in the gut that alters the digestion. Whey staying liquid in the gut passes much faster. This does not destroy the integrity of the protein.

      I've also had a history on whey and know that it was left for animal feed. I'm guessing you know that whey was introduced back into the human population when we realized livestock became bigger and healthier with consumption. We can rant or rave all we want, but I'm going to leave my opinions to change based on research i can read.

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  6. Your first and last post has opened a door for an exchange of ideas on nutrition, particular the role of protein, carbs and fats and the role they play in non-athletic and athletic people; I would like to post some additional ideas and answer some of the hypotheses you made on this thread but only if you are willing. I am not trying to shout you down or take over but perhaps expand your readers understanding of nutrition as it may be of interest to them. What I have to say would take approx. two post to complete if you are willing. I think it could be a win win for everyone.

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  7. I'm willing for outside opinions, my only mandate is that what you say is sourced and backed by solid research. You can email at endunamoox@gmail.com

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